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From Simon Daniel, New Zealand

A few weeks ago I bought an "Unforgettable Fire" shaped picture disc on eBay for $26. The white areas on the a-side of the disc have started to turn brown. The b-side is in original condition. The seller says it was like this when they bought it and the record has always been stored in a cupboard away from sunlight.

I'm wondering if this browning process is normal and will it affect the value of the record?

Dennis C.: I use to have a copy with 80% of the edges brown, instead of the normal white. Actually it is a manufacturing error, and it turned out to be worth a bit of a premium when I sold it. I have heard of other copies being sold with the same "defect" at slightly higher prices also. Personally I kind of thought the copy I use to have was kind of ugly, so I got rid of it. Obviously some collectors don't feel the same, so I would just hold onto it.

Paul Miller: Dennis is spot on. It happens when the vinyl is too hot and gets burnt, just like chip fat, it goes brown/gold in colour. The record was pressed and voila, a rarity. They fetch a premium on the normal pressing, I have seen as much as 100% premium, but personally I think that is a bit much.

But, definitely worth holding onto.

Update, 2005

Dennis C.: Many years ago I was one of the people quoted here about the brown edges of the Unforgettable Fire picture disk. At that time it was a rare occurrence to find a copy with this problem. For a while it even resulted in the record being sold at a premium price.

Fast forward 8 years or however long it has been since this issue came up on @U2, and you find that a majority of these picture disks are now turning up brown.

That being the case, my opinion has changed in that this IS NOT a pressing plant issue. What is the problem? It's just an educated guess, like it was 8 years ago. But I think it's one of three things, or a combination of them.

1. The vinyl is turning brown possibly due to acid / ink in the paper portion of the picture disk?

2. The vinyl is of some inferior quality / composition and for some reason turns brown after years of exposure to light and possibly even air?

3. The vinyl of the picture disk and the vinyl of the sleeve are different compositions and are reacting in some chemical way? (Probably not the case)

My own personal copy was pristine mint when I bought it 20 years ago, I have it stored in it's original sleeve + an extra poly sleeve. It has been stored in a record box tightly between 12" LP's. Yesterday I took it out for the 1st time in 3 or 4 years, it has a very noticeable amount of brown showing up (only on one side) and the edges. It's not like some that I have seen on Ebay, but most likely in a few years it will be.

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